JohnnyGalaga, a friend from Batlabs, posted a SINGLE LETTER on the thread on QRZ in support of Hamsexy, and has been banned. A single letter… Not offensive at all… I’ve seen it.
Just for fun (and because he threatened us not to), here are some letters between KC2KIT (James Vooght) and our favourite secret squirrel, QRZ_EDITOR (the guy who claims to both work for the Pentagon and also claims to be a retired Naval officer, who says he is in hiding because of the 9/11 attacks). For your enjoyment, the Kinder, Gentler side of QRZ management. (These letters posted with the express permission of KC2KIT. As for QRZ_EDITOR… well…. he can go back to the world of pretend and continue to act tough behind his anonymous keyboard). Your threats mean about as nothing to us as your so-called authority.
From: QRZ_EDITOR
To: KC2KIT
Mr Vooght,
1st and foremost, QRZ is a private site and you are a guest here. Act like
you would expect someone visiting in your home to act.
What is and isn’t QRZ’s problem with Hamsexy is none of your business.
Simple.
“Or how about I call my lawyer for character defamation from you?”
If you can find a lawyer who will take your money and case, go for it, but
as someone that has been on the Internet as long as you are old, you do not
have a snow balls on a hot asphalt parking lot’s chance. Save your money.
I have reread the thread 4 times and can find no where that WX7B is
attacking anyone, in fact, I found his post to be civil. His posts to you
do nothing more than telling you that his business is his, not yours.
If you have a problem with QRZ, we will be more than happy to solve it for
you.
ADMIN
And KC2KIT’s repsonse:
Dear Nameless Admin,
1st and foremost, I understand that I am a guest in your home. But I don’t expect to be treated like a junkyard dog by another one of the houseguests while I am visiting your house. I feel as though your moderation staff and methods leaves a little to be desired in my opinion. The fact that someone can jump in my case for me voicing my opinion (this is America correct?) when I feel there have been injustices done on part of your staff. Secondly, why are we hiding behind a name? You know who I am, you have my address and if you were creative enough you could even get my telephone number and place of employment? It does not instill confidence in the fact that you are performing your duties efficiently and equally amongst all the members of your forums.
And it is my business what QRZ’s problem is with Hamsexy. As a member of both forums, I don’t want to feel as though I will be persecuted (Historically as other Hamsexy members have on QRZ) for my other memberships in other sites. If you think being a member of a site that is non-wholesome, I also subscribe to a porn site, and I’m sure 90% of the men on the internet do as well.
Another thing… “Or how about I call my lawyer for character defamation from you?” If you read properly, I said that it was a ridiculous statement. I don’t have the time nor the patience to sue a website because one of your people pissed me off. I said it to illustrate a point.
Lastly I am glad that your perception’s of people’s comments overrides my feelings on their comments. Sorry if that bother’s you but I feel that WX7B has an axe to grind and wants to sharpen his blade on anyone that disagrees with him. I found his statements to be aggressive and retaliatory towards anyone who is a member of Hamsexy. Makes me wonder if he hates himself for being a member of Hamsexy as well. My problem with QRZ is the fact that there is a supposed list of rules that no one that has requested to see them has ever seen. Then the rules as they are quoted are not applied and enforced equally amongst the general membership. Then once someone raises that question, and presses the issue, they are banned. Swept under the carpet so no one has to deal with them. That is my problem, if you feel you need to ban me over, so be it. I will move on with my life.
James S. Vooght
KC2KIT
And Secret Squirrel’s response:
Sir,
You have been removed from the membership of QRZ. If you can’t figure out
why, please don’t lose too much sleep over it. I have neither the time nor
the patience to deal with 14 year old mentalities who have no idea what it
takes to babysit people of your caliber.
As this is a private email and you being a 911 dispatcher, you should know
that a private email is the property of the person who sent it. It is also
our opinion.
As a 30 year retired military officer I am amazed at your tirades given
your professional background.
This is our last email to you.
QRZ
Once again, another insult to James based on the fact he’s in the emergency services. QRZ_EDITOR has a small penis that’s bothering him too, methinks. It wouldn’t surprise us – most of the chest-beaters with a Hamsexy chip on their shoulder usually have reasons to feel insecure – we’re easy targets. QRZ_EDITOR also banned James based on this e-mail exchange. How’s that for leadership? KC2KIT responds:
Nameless Admin,
I saw that I was “Banned” from your site. Sir, I will tell you that this will only perpetuate the cycle to which you and your “team” are trying to sweep under the carpet. I have it figured why I was banned. I have an opinion and I felt the need to share it, regardless of the fact that it is against what you and your “team” holds as ideals. Therefore, I must be silenced.
As a private e-mail, in my inbox, it is not only your property, but my own as well. And I will do with it as I please. Don’t think for a second that telling me that these communications are your property is going to make me think that I cannot share them with my friends. Nice try at a cover-up, it was a valiant attempt, but an attempt in vain on your part. Being a 911 dispatcher has nothing to do with that fact at all. And the fact that you call my thoughts, and writings “tirades” is just another small-minded jab at me. You wonder why you have the problem you do.
I express my opinion as I do many places on the internet and in my personal life, and you have banned me for it. All because of another website, Hamsexy. You are cleansing your site of anyone related to Hamsexy, just like another man in the history of our world. He tried ridding the world of a people that did not take with his ideals. If I recall correctly, Adolf Hitler killed himself in a moment of cowardess at the end of World War 2. As a retired military officer you should appreciate that reference.
Whether it was your last message to me, I will continue to voice my opinions against the methods that you and your “team” utilize in “controlling” your internet populace. With that, take this as official notification that I want all of my personal information REMOVED from your servers without delay. I will check, and if it isn’t I will contact legal advice, because I do not beleive your site has permission to publish my personal information any longer.
Sleep well, I know I will.
James S. Vooght
KC2KIT
Ah… as VE3HBD says, we so get a kick out of shaking the hornet’s nest. Carry on, Commander QRZ_EDITOR – you are such a source of mirth and amusement. I think you’re break’s over and you’re needed back down in the galley peeling potatoes. And your check’s in the mail.
jaymz, you f’in rock!
people will wake up and see that BS that site is and it will eventually get its come-uppance.
I big thing I hear from folks is they use the zud, for the callsign lookup, here is something the sexyadmin could put on the front page if they desire.
Type a callsign:
thats right you can’t see it here but let me know I will send it as a file !
That QRZ editor is such a moron.
I imagine his 30 years of service in the Navy was limited to something very insignificant. He got shit on all the time, now that he has a little power (and what little it is, oooh, moderator on a website) he rules with an iron fist. A little Napoleonic, you think?
Anyways, Mr. QRZ Editor (and while I say Mister, I don’t really mean it; a real man doesn’t need to hide behind a moniker), feel free to ban me:
You can find me under KC2OSF and/or VE3ECM.
Good riddance.
Yet another reason to never spend money on any QRZ advertisers. Funny, I just dropped another 1000 on a new 706MKIIG yesterday… guess what stores I *didn’t* buy them from?
For those of us who came in at the third reel, what is the origin of this feud ? Clearly there is something at work the rest of us don’t know….
While QRZ and eham have a lot of bitter old men, the rest of both sites has a lot of good info. The only thing lacking is a sense of humor…which is the Hamsexy point.
Inquiring minds want to know.
I mean, I’ve posted reasonable comments against Element One, and have been attacked as a typical good for nothing no coder, with the work habits of a crack addict crossed with the intellectual curiosity of “president” Bush. I saw this as the rantings of some old guys, but not the sites, per se. Bizarre.
Hilarious! Under my KC2OSF profile on QRZ, Mr. Editor went in and replaced my picture with that of a very happy clown!
How clever. But what do you expect from a coward, really? Nothing screams “not a real man” like abusing your power as an admin and not having the balls to say something.
Sounds like the kind of children that would do disgusting things to other kids’ lunches when they weren’t looking.
Par for the course for this guy. I don’t know how Fred can keep this guy around.
uhh, I am wondering if this QRZ thing is just getting out of hand. I like to stop by read the silly stuff on whackers, wannabes, ham humor, etc. However, all this diatribe is just taking up too much space.
On to another subject, I want to submit something but don’t see where I can do it. I see the forums (need to log in to read) but our yahoogroup here in the SF bay area called Bayscan had their first meeting. Only three of us showed up but we had 8 radios on the table (Radio Shack, Bendix King, Motorola, Icom, etc). Maybe it was not real hamsexy but we hope future meetings will have many more attendees. Bayscan has hundreds of members and we all have our share of whackers and wannabes. In fact, the top magmount guy featured in the vehicular reviews is one of our members.
PS: take a look at my antenna arrangement (no it is not a Cingular advertisement, it just happened).
http://www.batnet.com/mfwright/bayscanmeeting04.jpg
Cingular?? Then I looked again..
LOL!
At least you’re having fun up in SFBay area.. In my area(yeah, I’m a sixlander too), it’s rather dry.
regarding submitting material, I found the link on the front page (“how to contact us”), must of been distracted by the zed globe. Nina took a photo of me inside my car (she used a wide angle lens from the sunroof) so hopefully it will be hamsexy qualified shot with my radios (and one of them includes a CB!). So once I get all that together I’ll send you guys some stuff. We are planning another meeting next month.
Yeah, I know this is getting offtopic of this zed thing (typical Bayscan I guess).
73 all! Mike
” I feel as though your moderation staff and methods leaves a little to be desired in my opinion.”
That’s funny Jaymz, coming from one of the Moderators of Batlabs where mioderators operate like Nazis as well.
Frank
AD4XE
I might add James, you were banned from QRZ so just stop whing in another forum about it. When you and the stasi over at Batlabs ban someone and they start whining about it it’s a big joke to you all. Stop being a whiny pussy james and get over it, they don’t want you on QRZ so just move on.
Frank
AD4XE
Actually Frank, if you read (you can read right?) I told them that if they felt the need to ban me, to go for it. I also said that I no longer have any use for it. And really havin’t commented since. I merely provided further documentation of unsubstantiated warnings and bannings that have happened on QRZ. Which, unlike your banning on batlabs that was more than warranted, I felt the banning of myself the other Hamsexy members was unjustified. I have not accepted nor initiated any further contact with the staff at QRZ.
Nice try, and thanks for playing.
Nice try?? At what? Making you look like the whiny pussy you are??
Oh, O.K, but I did very little, you did all the work James. Thanks for playing!
Speaking about taking whining to another forum….
Hamsexy will not be a 3rd front in whatever squabbles exist between Batlabs and the Batlounge Forums. There will be absolutley ZERO tolerance, Frank. Consider this your warning.
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